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  Are the halls of the Kingdom filling up, are they the same as before the pandemic or are they emptying?

  by LaFrancia in

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  i open a new topic, to find out how it's going in your area.

  from what i see as a southern european in my constituency the situation is patchy.. the congregation where i am now has 30% old people on zoom but also young couples with almost all their cameras off.

  no increase but a slight decrease in the total number of publishers.. circuit assemblies: before covid you couldn't find a free seat if you arrived 10 minutes before the start.

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  JW GoneBad

  The name Watchtower and the name Jehovah’s Witnesses for decades have been synonymous with the words cult, toxic, cruel, harsh...words in that vein. Today another word that is synonymous with WT & JWs is 'decline'. Adults and families are no longer drawn to this dangerous organization.
  
  WT is no longer expecting growth from an outside source...the general public. No, currently WT is banking on it's growth to come from within...toddlers & children. They've been heavily investing in children indoctrination for the past 10 to 15 years.
  
  Watchtower also stopped investing in facilities (Kingdom Halls) that at one time could accommodate gatherings or congregations of upwards of 200+ members. Today large Kingdom Halls are being sold off due to low meeting attendance or due to congregations, for whatever reason, that are shrinking in size. Where it is not feasible to sell off large Kingdom Halls, WT is restructuring surrounding congregations...merging & consolidating them for the appearance of fuller attendance and eliminating numerous non-performing congregations in the process resulting in many disgruntled JW rank and file having to travel longer distances to attend in-person meetings.
  
  Much smaller Kingdom Halls, where warranted are being built that will accommodate much smaller congregations...75 members or less.
  
  So back to the opening post questions:
  
  Are Kingdom Halls filling-up? No!
  
  Are Kingdom Halls emptying? Yes!
  
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  The August 2024 Watchtower controversy and potential further changes

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as an educated guess, the august 2024 watchtower may be delayed because 2 complicated subjects need to be discussed in this issue which haven't yet been approved to be included in the revised shepherding textbook.

  perhaps the revised shepherding textbook must be finalised before this watchtower is released publicly.. the 2 subjects may be as follows:.

  how to shepherd and appoint brothers based on the removal of the hour requirements, getting to know the brothers instead (does this mean prioritising appointing men who have auxiliary pioneered during the co visit and campaigns or men who are regular pioneers?).

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  Slimboyfat says: People always makes there assertions on the forum, but I see no evidence for it. Kingdom Halls are pretty full. There are a few more JWs who stay home and watch on Zoom after the pandemic, mainly older ones, but overall attendance is, if anything, slightly up.

  
  Slim speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He first accuses others of making assertions on this forum about low JW Kingdom Hall attendance. Then Slim makes a wild assertion himself implying Kingdom Halls are full with no evidence to backup his exaggeration. The truth is that large Kingdom Halls that once seated upwards of 200+ people are being sold off due to low meeting attendance and are being replaced with much smaller facilities that seat less than 75 people to give the appearance of full capacity. Another alternative to solving low JW meeting attendance is to merge 4 or 5 surrounding congregations into 3 to 4 congregations, again to give the appearance of full capacity. BTW...many of the Kingdom Halls that are being sold are purchased by other churches that are expanding...go figure!
  
  Another wild assertion Slim makes is that "There are a few more JWs who stay home and watch on Zoom..." The truth is that COs & congregation elders are constantly guilt tripping large numbers of Zoom JWs to get with the program & fill-up the Kingdom Halls. WT even has Tony Morris on a video before he was shit-canned pestering Zoom JW attendees about getting back to in-person meetings.

  Another wild assertion Slim makes is that mainly older ones are on Zoom meetings & that overall attendance is, if anything, slightly up. This too is a bunch of bullshit! I have access to several congregation Zoom meeting IDs & pass codes in my neck-of-the-woods. When I visit these different congregations on Zoom the numbers are mostly in the mid to high 30s (often it'll reach 40+) in attendance of all ages, young & old alike...a large number are individuals who are otherwise relatively healthy...many elders & ministerial servants and wives are on Zoom...many healthy pioneers as well...and most everyones' camera is off...I mean Zoom is dark...maybe 1 or 2 cameras are one.

  Guaranteed...JW World is having their own pandemic of low numbers & low meeting attendance worldwide!
  
  
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  The August 2024 Watchtower controversy and potential further changes

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as an educated guess, the august 2024 watchtower may be delayed because 2 complicated subjects need to be discussed in this issue which haven't yet been approved to be included in the revised shepherding textbook.

  perhaps the revised shepherding textbook must be finalised before this watchtower is released publicly.. the 2 subjects may be as follows:.

  how to shepherd and appoint brothers based on the removal of the hour requirements, getting to know the brothers instead (does this mean prioritising appointing men who have auxiliary pioneered during the co visit and campaigns or men who are regular pioneers?).

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  ...I heard directly this past weekend from someone in Bethel that as speculated elsewhere on this site it was a health reason, it was his choice to step down...

  Tony Morris became a liability to the WTBTS as a GB member. He got shit-canned!
  
  
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  The August 2024 Watchtower controversy and potential further changes

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as an educated guess, the august 2024 watchtower may be delayed because 2 complicated subjects need to be discussed in this issue which haven't yet been approved to be included in the revised shepherding textbook.

  perhaps the revised shepherding textbook must be finalised before this watchtower is released publicly.. the 2 subjects may be as follows:.

  how to shepherd and appoint brothers based on the removal of the hour requirements, getting to know the brothers instead (does this mean prioritising appointing men who have auxiliary pioneered during the co visit and campaigns or men who are regular pioneers?).

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  June 2024 Announcement #4:

  "August 2024 Study Edition of The Watchtower: Production of the August 2024 study edition of The Watchtower has been delayed. As a result, congregations are likely to receive their shipments of printed copies of the September 2024 and October 2024 issues of TheWatchtower before the August 2024 issue..."

  Wait...what??? The September & October 2024 Watchtower Study Mags are going to be produced & made available before the August 2024 Watchtower Study magazine. Isn't this like putting the cart before the horse or simply...putting things in the wrong order?

  Only in Watchtower World can a publishing company get things soo out of whack!
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  2024-06-June-S-147-English-Announcements And Reminders!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2024-06-june-s-147-english- announcements and reminders.. let me know if you need it in a different language and i'll.

  https://pdfupload.io/docs/e297b0ec.

  i'll take a supreme pizza with all the extras!.

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  JW GoneBad

  ...thank you Atlantis for all you do!
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  2024-06-June-S-147-English-Announcements And Reminders!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2024-06-june-s-147-english- announcements and reminders.. let me know if you need it in a different language and i'll.

  https://pdfupload.io/docs/e297b0ec.

  i'll take a supreme pizza with all the extras!.

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  JW GoneBad

  June 2024 Announcement #4:

  "August 2024 Study Edition of The Watchtower: Production of the August 2024 study edition of The Watchtower has been delayed. As a result, congregations are likely to receive their shipments of printed copies of the September 2024 and October 2024 issues of TheWatchtower before the August 2024 issue..."

  Wait...what??? The September & October 2024 Watchtower Study Mags are going to be produced & made available before the August 2024 Watchtower Study magazine.

  Isn't that like putting the cart before the horse or simply...putting things in the wrong order?

  Only in Watchtower World can a publishing company get things soo out of whack!
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  More JW Criminals Caught....

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
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  https://youtu.be/pirwhbyd4uy?si=x3awvyv4midux8es.

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  Wow...higher appellate court rules that lead WTBTS lawyer Philip Brumley is 'a snake in the grass' of an attorney & that the $154,000.00 fine for fraud (submitting misleading & faulse affidavits) in 2 Montana CSA cases is upheld!

  What are the chances that Philip Brumley turns states evidence against WTBTS...flips on the Governing Body to save his own ass & reputation? Yay!
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  Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

  even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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  In the U.S.A. a C.O. by the name of Lou Razor. Believe me...this guy lived-up to his name...he had a razor's edge about him! Many a JW were happy to hear that he had retired but pitied the congregation he was eventually assigned to...1,500 miles away!
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  Constant Pleas For Money

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it comes up from time to time: that the wt's "constant pleas for money" signifies their precarious financial state due to the pressure of the csa settlements.

  is there any way of demonstrating that to be a fact?

  i ask because i've always been under the impression that "constant pleas for money" is the default state of the organisation, possibly going back to rutherford's time.

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  JW GoneBad

  People misquote this scripture for their own agenda. "For the love of money (greed) is a root (not the only one) of all sorts of injurious things..." (1 Tim 6:10)

  Hey 'a watcher' what do you think of my version of how 1Tim 6:10 should read:

  "For the WTBTS is the root of all sorts of injurious things..." (1 Tim 6:10)
  
  
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  NEW YORK TIMES 10TH MAY: HOW THE JWS COPY THE MORMONS

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/jctod7viuq0?si=bcffiejweq8k-rwn.

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  jw updates.

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  JW GoneBad

  I've always viewed Mormons as the older sister to the Jehovah’s Witnesses. The Mormons being the older, more attractive & more successful sister...the Jehovah’s Witnesses being the younger, less attractive (ugly duckling) & less successful of the two.